Table of Counter Formations 2.0

– Which formation to use?


as our great member “July Fourth” decided to edit the starting post of the old thread, I decided to continue the thread.

All given information on this thread is subject to change. New formations and counter formations will be added at some point. Please note that the given information in this thread is not always correct and that you can still lose against your opponent even though you are using a counter formation.

Credits to July Fourth for creating and maintaining the old thread.


Formation Counter Formation
3N-2-2-2-1 Butterfly 4-2-2-2, 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1
3N-1-2-1-3 4-1-3N-2, 4-5-1V
3N-1-3W-1-2 Dandelion 4-5-1V, 4-4-2, 4-1-2-1-2 Wide Diamond
3N-1-3W-2(AMC)-1 4-5-1V
3N-1-4-1-1 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3N-1-4-2 4-5-1V
3N-2(DML/DMR)-2-1-2 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3N-2(DML/DMR)-3N-2 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond, 4-5-1 Flat, 3-5-2 Flat
3N-2-3W(AML/AMC/AMR)-2 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly, 4-4-2, 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3N-3-2W(AML/AMR)-2 4-3N-2W-1
3N-4-1-2 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3N-4-3 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1, 4-4-2, 3-5-2
3N-5-1-1 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3N-5-2 Flat 3N-2-2-2-1 Butterfly, 4-3-2(AML/AMR)-1
3N-5-2 V-Style 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1, 4-2-2-2 Hexagon
3W-1-3N-1-2 4-5-1 V-Style
3W-1-3W-1-2 3W-2(DMC)-3N-1-1 Tower, 3N-5-2 Flat
3W-1-3W-2(AMC)-1 4-5-1 V-Style
3W-1-4-1-1 4-5-1 V-Style
3W-1-4-2 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3W-1-5-1 4-3N-2W-1
3W-2-3W-1-1 Maple Leaf 4-5-1 V-Style
3W-2(DMC)-2W-1-2 3W-5-2 V-Style
3W-2(DMC)-3W-1-1 Maple Leaf 3N-1-4-2
3W-2(DMC)-3W-2 3W-5-2 Flat
3W-2N-2N-2W-1 4-4-2
3W-4-1-2 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3W-4-3 4-2-2-2 Hexagon
3W-5-1-1 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond
3W-5-2 Flat 4-5-1 V-Style
3W-5-2 V-Style 3N-2-2-2-1 Butterfly
4-1-1-2N-2 4-5-1 V-Style
4-1-1-2W-2 3N-3W-2-2
4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond 4-5-1V, 3-5-2V
4-1-3N-1-1 3N-5-2 V-Style
4-1-3N-2 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1
4-1-3W-1-1 5-1(DMC)-2-2
4-1-3W-2 4-5-1 V-Style, 4-4-2 Classic
4-1-4-1 4-2-2-2 Hexagon, 3W-4-3
4-1(DMC)-2-3 4-1-4-1
4-2-1-3 4-5-1 V-Style, 4-3N-2W-1
4-2-2-2 Hexagon 3N-4-1-2, 4-5-1 V-Style, 3-4-3
4-2(DMC)-1-2(AML/AMR)-1 5-2-2(AML/AMR)-1, 4-4-2 Classic
4-2(DMC)-1-2(AMC)-1 3N-1-4-1-1
4-2(DMC)-3W-1 3N-2-2-2-1 Butterfly
4-3N-1-2 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1, 4-5-1 V-Style
4-3N-2(AMC)-1 3W-2(DMC)-3W-1-1 Maple Leaf
4-3N-2W-1 4-4-1-1
4-3N-3 4-1-4-1
4-3W-1-2 4-1-4-1, 3N-1-4-2
4-3W-2(AMC)-1 3W-2(DMC)-3N-1-1 Tower, 4-5-1 Flat
4-3W-3 4-4-2, 4-5-1 V-Style
4-4-1-1 3-5-2 Flat, 4-5-1 V-Style
4-4-2 3N-4-1-2, 4-5-1 V-Style, 3N-2-2-2-1 Butterfly
4-5-1 Flat 3-5-2 Flat, 3-5-2 V-Style
4-5-1 V-Style 3N-2(DML/DMR)-3N-2, 4-3N-3
5-1-2-1-1 Narrow Diamond 3N-5-2 V-Style
5-1-2-1-1 Wide Diamond 3N-5-2 Flat
5-1-3N-1 3N-5-2 V-Style
5-1-3W-1 3N-5-2 V-Style
5-2-1-2 X-Style 3N-1-4-2
5-2(ML/MR)-2(AMC)-1 4-2-2-2 Hexagon
5-3N-2 3N-4-1-2, 4-4-2
5-3W-2 3N-4-1-2, 4-4-2
5-4-1 4-4-2, 3-5-2 Flat


  • “W” = Wide
  • “N” = Narrow
  • “V-Style”, “Narrow Diamond”, “Wide Diamond” etc. = How the formation looks on the field or a special name for the formation.

You can ask your questions about the formations in this thread. Feel free to post your successfull experiences and results against other formations in this thread. You can also suggest new formations and new counter formations.

I’m sorry if there are a few old formations missing, I got those formations from the most current Google Cache of the old thread.



Source: Top Eleven Forum




  1. What about counter for 4-1-3-2 but not traditional

    ST ST

    I normally play a 4-5-1v with up arrows on DL, DR, and DMC

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